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Post by namedaftermckay on Dec 12, 2016 13:49:20 GMT -5
Amazing that maybe 50? students were there last night. The atmosphere begins with the students. I believe if the students come, more USC fans would take in these games because of the atmosphere. I know SC is trying by bringing in the DJ-which sometimes annoys me but if the students like the DJ than so be it.
Not sure what the answer is but this team deserves to have more fans and students attend.
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Post by cabrillojaguar on Dec 12, 2016 13:52:17 GMT -5
Students are currently prepping/taking Finals. There will be more students by league play  |
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Post by trojangrad on Dec 12, 2016 13:57:56 GMT -5
Not going to get a lot of students on a Sunday night week of finals. Attendance has been (slightly) up through the first 6 home games compared to last year, which was also up from previous year. Incremental progress. Hoping that we can keep momentum going to see a significant bump in attendance for league play.
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Post by fade on Dec 12, 2016 14:33:10 GMT -5
Agreed. I wish our students would get more involved. However, they were amazing last year against UCLA. I too hope they start coming out in droves for league play.
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Post by eeks2284 on Dec 12, 2016 17:15:50 GMT -5
​Agreed that it starts with the student organizations dedicated to USC basketball. If only USC basketball had support like GCU. This type of culture doesn't happen organically, it takes many years and needs to be built and supported by both the administration and students. It could start with expanding the student section at Galen in front of the gameplay broadcast camera and moving the sleepy alumni behind. I hope the administration cares enough to improve the current joke that is USC basketball support. Blue chip players do not want to play in front of 70% empty arenas. I don't buy the "there's too much to do in LA" argument, Pauley pavilion is starting to sell out their games. If the atmosphere is great, the fans will come. No reason USC can't have a similar type of atmosphere to GCU. Students like parties, so bring the party to Galen!
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Post by TroyAreaCA on Dec 12, 2016 17:22:37 GMT -5
eeks agree that there needs to be a better environment at Galen (went to the SMU game and that was as quiet as a funeral). With that said, ucla's fan base is coming out in droves because its a Top 5 team. Its no different than when Pete Carroll used to field Top 5 teams and the fans would come out in droves. Plus isn't the Pauley Pavilion student section behind the basket and close to the opponent's court side, just like SC. cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/710075/seating_chart_new_medium.jpg |
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Post by eeks2284 on Dec 12, 2016 17:29:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I brought up Pauley selling out since it refutes the "LA traffic blows and there's too much to do" argument. The Lakers and Dodgers both attract well because the atmosphere is great, even when the play of the court/field is not. GCU and Duke are two examples of schools that sacrificed money (season tickets for alumni at mid court) for atmosphere. In the end, it's more important to sell out games than allow people to pay the most money for the best seats.
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Post by Jlt4usc on Dec 12, 2016 18:18:07 GMT -5
The crowd will grow in PAC 12 play, although that isn't good enough. The "lack of a crowd" argument starts every year around this time. The season always gets going at the end of football season and right before holiday season/finals begin. It seems like the marketing Dept should be doing individual promos each home game during this "down" period to generate excitement early and maximize turnout with students and fan groups.
The team needs to keep winning, but the marketing machine needs to do its part with students to create a sense of urgency, especially for the early games rather than settling for the same arguments we used before Galen Center was built.
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Post by PxPxTrojan on Dec 13, 2016 20:53:40 GMT -5
Perhaps if the home non-conference schedule wasn't so awful...
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Post by TroyAreaCA on Dec 13, 2016 22:51:43 GMT -5
Perhaps if the home non-conference schedule wasn't so awful... even then the fans may not necessarily show up. The last time USC played a Top 25 team at home was against #14 Minnesota in December 2012. Attendance was a mere 3271. |
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Post by PxPxTrojan on Dec 14, 2016 14:19:57 GMT -5
Minnesota may have been ranked, but they are not a draw. The building was rocking when we were winning under Floyd and played Kansas. My dad and I couldn't justify buying full season tickets (PAC-12 package only for the second straight season after having full season since Galen opened) because it isn't worth the trouble for either of us to work around our work schedules to see the team beat up on some teams I haven't even heard of.
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Post by biggitysc on Dec 14, 2016 15:22:06 GMT -5
The USC marketing Department is almost non-existent for basketball. It was a joke when I was in school and I doubt it has improved since then. There's no excuse for not doing a better job at promoting the basketball team. It falls on whoever is in charge..Tessalone?
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Post by Rockazar on Dec 15, 2016 16:30:28 GMT -5
Hi, all.
The department could do some small stuff to promote the basketball team(s).
I have called a few people in the athletic department in the past 2 weeks to ask why there is no Facebook presence for the hoops program. If you look on youtube, someone in Athletics is making nice 2 minute highlight videos of each game. They are being done. All it would take is someone about 10 seconds to post it on the Facebook page. The two or three I talked to agreed it was a good idea. One said football is the priority right now. But the last game was Nov 24th and the next won't be until the 2nd and most students won't be able to make it there anyway.
Football is always the priority, but does that mean there is no place for hoops?
Don't most students have FB? If one of their friends shares the highlights footage, it will show up on their timeline and get awareness of the program and progress, in video; You get dunks, 3 pointers, and steals instead of a posed photo of dudes standing with a ball.
Additionally, most top-level hoops programs have a dedicated page with regular updates. We don't. But for now, I'd be happy with just highlights and mention of the team on the main page.
About 15-30 seconds of time will expose highlights to 350k people who already like USC athletics and all of the people in their network.
I used to frequent the boards as Aeneas quite a while back (in the later 90s through early 2000s, gave money for Goux's Gate) before other things in life took priority.
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Post by Rockazar on Dec 15, 2016 16:52:54 GMT -5
Facebook part 2
There is a Charles White 1980 Rosebowl video up. Great! I love it! How about some current hoops highlights, also? It's free!
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Post by eeks2284 on Dec 16, 2016 2:23:34 GMT -5
Agree that USC could do a lot more to help USC basketball, but there needs to better student organization and commitment. As for who is in a position to do something about it, here are a few: twitter.com/MooreSports - Jordan Moore, USC Director of Social Media. twitter.com/theenzoneusc - Defunct student organization supporting USC basketball twitter.com/usctrojanfever - Supports and incentivizes student fan attendance Apparently there was a vote for rebranding the Galen center student section at the beginning of the season Is the fan section really called "Kingdom of Troy" now? Can't even get the name right... |
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Post by mwtrojan on Dec 18, 2016 23:46:26 GMT -5
From a student perspective, it's really tough before 2nd semester. We have 8 non-conference home games. Of the 8 games....
Montana and Omaha are on a Friday and Sunday in early november, flanking a football game.
New Orleans and SMU are the Tuesday and Friday of thanksgiving week. No one is gonna hang around for those games.
Pepperdine is the Sunday in the middle of finals. Not gonna get a draw there.
Troy and Cornell are during winter break, when classes aren't in session. Won't get anyone there either.
Once the conference season starts, students will start to show up. Cal is the sunday night before classes start again, hopefully that gets a good draw. Then Arizona, ASU, and UCLA a few weeks later. If you win 3 or 4 of those games, students will continue to show up and numbers will grow. If not, you lose kids.
The bottom line is, just like any team in any sport, if you win, people will come.
While the students take some flack, I think everyone should look around at the rest of galen center too. The students occupy the section behind 1 basket, thats all. The rest of galen center is for non-students, and it is completely empty as well.
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